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Jurgen Gravestein's avatar

It’s weird logical fallacy to conflate pain/suffering with the moral equivalent of bad. The idea you could slot our experiences in one of two boxes, always, is just silly. Life is complex and messy — a continuum of sadness and joy and everything in between.

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I wonder if pleasure and pain belong in the same equation. After all, Pandora's box didn't contain all the evils of the world, plus pleasure. Actually, on refection there might be a voice in my head ready to argue that pleasure was one of the evils...

I'm probably too dismissive of antinatalism: I tend to lump it into the 'pointless rhetorical flourish' bin, along with certain brands of 'longtermism' and 'hard determinism'.

I used to work in a classy bookshop and the most heavily shoplifted sections were cooking and philosophy. Cooking was right by the front entrance and the books were on the expensive side. What was philosophy's excuse? Readers skilled at justifying their actions, was my feeling.

I did give some thought to the ethics of having a child, before my daughter was born. I back-and-forthed for a couple of weeks, weighing the evils of the world and its imminent collapse into barbarism. In the end, like the Greeks, I found in favour of hope. I couldn't honestly say that my situation was worse than that of my ancestors, for whom the prospect of raiders on horseback, sweeping over the hills killing and burning everything they encountered, was very real. I'm glad they rolled the dice. I hope my decedents will be too.

...on the other hand, maybe I'm just stealing philosophy books.

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